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Author Topic: Null Audio Lune or Enyo cable or d-o-c-k + amp?  (Read 7800 times)
burping_boy
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« on: July 09, 2009, 12:32:47 PM »

I am a LW (dual driver) owner with a sansa fuze v2 currently.

in order to test and try out what MORE can my LW give me, and perhaps less than $200 to spare, i am considering either:
1. a LW Lune or Enyo Cable; or
2. an amp with/without a d-o-c-k

But option 2 is less preferred because
1. there are no d-o-c-k off the shelf for sale for sansa fuze, and can only diy, and i totally dunno how to solder yet or to get the parts or etc. of course i also won't mind if someone can diy for me, i still have my old sansa e260 cable; and
2. portability

I've notice a couple of LW users who already invested in a Null Audio Lune or Enyo Cable for their LWs or LW3s, but somehow there's no real comparison or review on how the cables actually improve or change the sound quality of their LWs or LW3s.
can those with the cables please share your impressions?

also, will it justify to have a lune or enyo cable without an amp? or the cable must be paired up with an amp to really feel the difference?

lune cable users, please help!

Thank you!


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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 08:50:53 PM »

it depends...
silver is very different from copper Smiley
the silver cables will usually have a bigger soundstage, harsher/brighter sound, less emphasis on bass/ not so much bass quantity.
i have a different sound with the cowon D2 and the lune cable VS stock cable with my LWs.
be sure to have enough money first, maxing out the amount of money you are prepared to spend will be bad.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 04:43:12 PM »

it depends...
silver is very different from copper Smiley
the silver cables will usually have a bigger soundstage, harsher/brighter sound, less emphasis on bass/ not so much bass quantity.
i have a different sound with the cowon D2 and the lune cable VS stock cable with my LWs.
be sure to have enough money first, maxing out the amount of money you are prepared to spend will be bad.

Thanks for your reply.

So since both Lune and Enyo's are silver cables, does it mean that perhaps both cables will have similar properties, ie. bigger soundstage, harsher/brighter sound, less emphasis on bass?

Do you use the lune cables straight out from your D2 or via an amp?
Will the effects of the cables be recognized without an amp?

Finally, i think that $200 to spare for a small upgrade at this point of time is what i can afford. I can't possibly not set any budget as well. but yes i am aware that a bigger budget is better.

Any other Lune or Enyo owners who can share your impressions?
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 05:42:47 PM »

it depends...
silver is very different from copper Smiley
the silver cables will usually have a bigger soundstage, harsher/brighter sound, less emphasis on bass/ not so much bass quantity.
i have a different sound with the cowon D2 and the lune cable VS stock cable with my LWs.
be sure to have enough money first, maxing out the amount of money you are prepared to spend will be bad.

Thanks for your reply.

So since both Lune and Enyo's are silver cables, does it mean that perhaps both cables will have similar properties, ie. bigger soundstage, harsher/brighter sound, less emphasis on bass?

Do you use the lune cables straight out from your D2 or via an amp?
Will the effects of the cables be recognized without an amp?

Finally, i think that $200 to spare for a small upgrade at this point of time is what i can afford. I can't possibly not set any budget as well. but yes i am aware that a bigger budget is better.

Any other Lune or Enyo owners who can share your impressions?
i used it straight out from my cowon D2 headphone out Smiley
you will hear the difference IMHO...
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2009, 11:14:00 AM »

So Kevin from Null Audio replied me.

"Hi,
The Lune cable has better details and bass, however, Enyo has better sound stage in my opinion."

anyone with sansa fuze + null audio cables?

does it justify without an amp?

might also consider an Fiio E5 though, even though i dunno what improvements it will bring.
i'm still at this trial and error stage to see what more can my rig give me.
but i must say, with just the sansa fuze and stock cables and lw, i'm already a lot happier than my old sansa e260 and um1.



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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2009, 07:54:43 PM »

haha... still a waiting their reply regards to the pricing
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2009, 08:45:34 PM »

fiio E5 doesn't do much for your case IMHO...
since the fuze does not have bass roll off Smiley

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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 08:50:38 AM »

haha... still a waiting their reply regards to the pricing

hmm... i send them an enquiry and haven't had a reply too...
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 01:47:57 AM »

fiio E5 doesn't do much for your case IMHO...
since the fuze does not have bass roll off Smiley



what do you mean by no bass roll off so no need E5?
you mean E5 helps to "treat" bass roll-off, so since the sansa have none of those, it's unnecessary?
i mean wouldn't it improve on other aspects?

seems like another possible contender within budget will be the ibasso t4 as well...

so people, given the choice of only one item for greatest improvement to SQ, will you go for the:
1. Enyo Cable
2. Lune Cable
3. Fiio E5
4. ibasso t4

Personally still leaning towards getting a Lune Cable...
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2009, 01:51:11 AM »

fiio E5 doesn't do much for your case IMHO...
since the fuze does not have bass roll off Smiley



what do you mean by no bass roll off so no need E5?
you mean E5 helps to "treat" bass roll-off, so since the sansa have none of those, it's unnecessary?
i mean wouldn't it improve on other aspects?

seems like another possible contender within budget will be the ibasso t4 as well...

so people, given the choice of only one item for greatest improvement to SQ, will you go for the:
1. Enyo Cable
2. Lune Cable
3. Fiio E5
4. ibasso t4

Personally still leaning towards getting a Lune Cable...

T4, but the weight is greater than the lune cable. HAHA
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2009, 05:24:50 AM »

there's a new portable amp coming out from iBasso, T3 and i believe its using the same casing as the T4. you may want to wait around for it, though for Bevan, the Mustang shoul trump both of them  Grin ( definitely trump T4. not sure about T3)
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2009, 08:24:03 AM »

fiio E5 doesn't do much for your case IMHO...
since the fuze does not have bass roll off Smiley



what do you mean by no bass roll off so no need E5?
you mean E5 helps to "treat" bass roll-off, so since the sansa have none of those, it's unnecessary?
i mean wouldn't it improve on other aspects?

seems like another possible contender within budget will be the ibasso t4 as well...

so people, given the choice of only one item for greatest improvement to SQ, will you go for the:
1. Enyo Cable
2. Lune Cable
3. Fiio E5
4. ibasso t4

Personally still leaning towards getting a Lune Cable...


haha... same leaning towards Lune... but still waiting for my LW3 to arrive 1st... haha... i actually got a enyo already from aloy... if rally want to get T4 must get it fast because currently then is a short time promotion
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2009, 08:37:57 AM »

the lune looks sleeker btw Tongue
one of the reason i bought my lune cable.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2009, 01:54:54 PM »

have anyone tried these with the LW3?
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2009, 02:18:37 PM »

have anyone tried these with the LW3?

Yeah I'm thinking of changing my cable too, if not for sound improvements at least because the stock cables are mildly irritating to use (I'm in a love hate relationship with the memory wire).

Maybe we should start a dedicated LiveWires alternative cables thread to discuss the options available?
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